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Admiration & Communication

Journal Entry: Thu Feb 28, 2008, 2:31 PM
  • Reading: Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
  • Watching: Doctor Who (Season 3)
  • Playing: Baldur's Gate Trilogy



It has come to my attention that a certain work of mine is becoming increasingly popular. Which is very nice, because it means I made something that touches a lot of people. At the moment, I could not fit the people who have added this work to their favourites in my house. If I wanted to buy them all a drink (which would be fun), I would end up with a rather large bar tab.
There are various reasons why someone would post their art on a community like deviantArt. Most commonly, they seek admiration. Acknowledgement for their efforts and a kind word of approval. It's a very human desire, to be loved. It's also very fortunate if it happens. Makes you feel all warm inside. The system of :+fav:s is very helpful to create this feeling. There are many deviants whose only goal is collect as much admiration they can get.
However, we'll have to understand that admiration is a really one-sided form of communication. If you admire something, you radiate it to whatever it is you're admiring. You're placing the object of your admiration on a pedestal, making it actually less reachable then it was before. You don't even want to touch it, just admire it.

This feeling of distance to something you admire has often bothered me. If I really like something, I always have one side of me that feels I shouldn't interact with it and just admire it. You could even call it worship. Another side of me, however, is enthusiastic about the object of admiration. I wish I could talk to the person who made it, ask them why they made it, what their feelings are about it. This sort of communication, which is partially what makes deviantArt so great, might keep your idol from its pedestal but also give you a more meaningful connection to the object of your admiration.

So my conclusion is that I wish to keep communicating with you. If you really like something I made, don't just click the :+fav: to put it on a pedestal, but ask me things about it. Tell me how it touches you. That's what makes me the most happy. And vice versa, if I like something you make, let's talk about it. Let's exchange thoughts about it. And maybe somewhere along the way, I can buy you a drink.


Edit: In addition to all this, I had the good fortune of winning ^RockstarVanity's Photography Contest: CRUSH! with my photo Doorgestoken Kaart. I have to admit I entered it because I thought it suited the theme and knew it was a very popular image. Still, I enjoy the little tricks it plays with the concept of being cheated upon, in the heart and in the flesh.
And my luck has no end this week, because @lenawargo has made me an amazing CSS-layout for my journal. Blood sweat and tears went into this design and I thank her heartily for it.
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:iconsetsunacutey:
I always have the feeling that in a way you always overstate admiration. DA is also a practical thing, there for educational purposes, communication and whatnot. Recognition or admiration should not be an artist's primary goal, even. Primary should be that you put effort and love in your work and that, at some point, you might find it desirable to show it. If you focus too much on reception and how your art is received, the activity looses its meaning.

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:icontalescaper:
:nod: What is the reason to show art though, if its only value is in its creation? I don't see art as so ... individualistic any more. If I made it for myself, I wouldn't want to exhibit it, no matter how wonderful and essential I'd think it is.
I'm glad you read and responded to this. I value your opinion on this :D

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:iconataratis:
*Grins* I can see that you are indeed rising on the famous list ;) and salute you for it! Hard work pays off so it seems! And I think recognition is a bog reward for something you love to do!

-Find a job you love and you'll never have a days work!- Confuscius

And you took the words right out of my mouth only you found a way to be nice about it ;) I think I had a rant a while ago about wanting to interact instaid of gain stars LOL

Touché!

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:iconmarialittle:
I can only agree

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:iconlenawargo:
That is some smeXy CSS :flirty:

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:iconbluem00n:
I read this and I had the same urge. To fave it somehow, to put it on a pedestal.

Then I realised why we get this way. Not only it is an innate reaction in us - dA does encourage it somewhat.
The first example that pops to my head is in ts.
Every time I say something to an admin there's someone there to call me an ass licker. It doesn't matter if I said hi or actually commented on something.
Same with art - all those 'talented bigshots' - if they even bother answering - think that you're kissing up to them because they're popular, or want something from them.

It's sad, but I don't think there's much to do to get over it.

Your journal really touched me, I'll tell you that much.

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:icontalescaper:
Well, thanks for your intelligent response then :D
And yeah, I've often felt that dA focusses a bit too much on status. We get our status embedded in our username, the number of pageviews is the very first thing people see on your profile, before your art, even. I wonder how much this reflects the 'real' world of art and artists.
I do know it takes a certain kind of personality to communicate with people who have a different 'level' of status. Both people with a higher and a lower status, really. I've known artists (musicians and bands in particular) who really looked down on me as an interviewer. And others who I've chatted with quite easily. Vice versa as well, really. It can be hard to do a proper interview with someone you really respect as an artist and even harder to talk freely with them.
As far as other people judging about 'asskissing' is concerned... What, who and how you kiss is nobody's business but your own :D I enjoy chatting with people in #thumbsshare and a number of other channels. I hope you're enjoying it to. What others think about it is their problem :D

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What do you do with critique? 

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22 deviants said I think about which suggestions I want to keep and include them
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6 deviants said I think about it a lot, but rarely include any of it
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4 deviants said I apply all suggestions immediately in my work
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4 deviants said I listen to what people say, but not much more
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3 deviants said I never let anyone critique my work
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